I had some Jinxuan tea yesterday at my sister’s after dinner (coffee’s really not my thing, more on that another day). The Jinxuan is stuff I bought her before she moved here, so we’re talking a year old tea that’s a little stale now. One interesting observation — the brewed leaves are 100% green, no red at all, but this is, after all, an oolong. This makes me think that even when you look at puerh leaves that are brewed…. colour is not a good indication (or not a foolproof one anyway) of having or lacking pre-fermentation.
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Jinxuan oolong
November 12, 2006 · 2 Comments
Categories: Old Xanga posts · Teas
Tagged: Taiwan oolong
Lapsang souchong in a bag
November 11, 2006 · 2 Comments
I had a break yesterday between all the museum hopping and eating around, and my girlfriend and I sat down at a cafe to get a drink. I saw a lapsang souchong on the menu, so I decided to try it and see how it compares (since I pretty much never drinks this tea). It was a tea bag, but of a somewhat premium kind, I think, using a silk bag instead of just a regular paper bag.
The taste…. well… the water was thin, the tea was a tad sour in the aftertaste, overwhelmingly smokey, not very fragrant…. mine’s so much better :p
So now I know I didn’t buy the wrong thing. Yay.
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Tagged: black tea, travel
Lapsang souchong
November 8, 2006 · Leave a Comment
Well…. teas today consisted of bad sencha at a Japanese restaurant, and then I drank the Lapsang Souchong I got in Beijing here. The bad sencha was bad because it was kind of stale.
The Lapsang Souchong is this:
I like it because it’s very smooth. There’s the smoke smell/taste, but there’s also a nice, smooth, rich red tea flavour to it. It’s sweet…. got a good huigan, and not astringent or bitter. I rarely like red teas, but this is something that I actually find myself enjoying quite a bit.
And it doesn’t hurt that it’s dirt cheap. 🙂
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Tagged: black tea
Sour aged tieguanyin
November 6, 2006 · 2 Comments
I realized I’ve had puerh for many days in a row now, so today I opted for something else. I got a small packet of tieguanyin from the guy who sold me two cakes of those ok Yiwu. He claimed they are from 1992, aged, but selling for a ridiculously cheap price. I asked for a sample to bring home to brew myself, and he gave me some (along with the maocha I brewed up yesterday).
The dried leaves… look like medium to low grade tea from way back when, lightly rolled, not tight like they make them now (thanks to those Taiwanese). Looks good enough. Let’s see how it brews up.
Yum
Sip….. wow…… it’s sour. It’s really sour. It’s so sour. Wow. Hmmm
Another infusion…. still really sour.
One more, with me having taken some leaves out….. still sour.
The rest got thrown into the garbage, but not before I took some pics
The leaves felt a bit rough and stiff, almost plasticky. Other than sourness, the tea did have a nice aged taste to it that I recognize from other well aged oolongs, but the sourness was all pervasive. It was really, really sour. Tasted like Chenpi, the aged Chinese mandarin skin. You’re supposed to get that taste in an old oolong … but only the aroma and not the sourness. Sourness is a no no.
I drank my usual tieguanyin (the medium fired one) to wash out the taste after this.
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Tagged: aged oolong, Chinese oolong
Luoshuidong Yiwu maocha
November 5, 2006 · 3 Comments
I should really be quite happy that I am in China. Despite the nasty air, bad water, horrible traffic, terrible food, awful service attitude, there’s lots of tea. If I were in Shanghai, life might be a bit more interesting, but the variety of tea I can get there is lower, mainly because puerh hasn’t really caught on there yet, since it is still the heartland of green tea, the last bastion of longjing drinking. Although, from what I can gather, that’s changing too.
Anyway, on the plate today is a maocha from Yiwu, given to me by the guy who sold me those two Yiwu cakes. I asked him for it when I was looking around his store. There are some curious pieces there, and among them is a jar of this stuff. This is from 05, and according to him, from Falling Water Grotto è½æ°´æ´ž of Yiwu. Different areas of Yiwu produce different tastes (albeit only slight differences), so I figured I’d ask where these are from.
They are keeping it because they didn’t get a lot of it, not enough to press cakes with anyway, and figured that they will experiment with putting them in jars and aging them as maocha. These are the same people who pressed a few hundred cakes and stuck them in a storage space in the NE of China, hoping to see how they age over there in the cold weather. Wish them luck.
Anyway, the tea brewed up a tasty Yiwu brew. It is the same as usual, not bitter, a bit sweet, quite mellow and nice, and a bit fragrant. The fragrance is not as obvious as the autumn maocha I’ve been drinking, and neither is the sweetness as prominent. The liquor feels a little thinner, and while there’s a minty feeling, it’s not as strong. I think this might’ve been a mix between old tree and newer trees materials, so not top grade.
Infusion 1:
Infusion…. 5?
The tea is also slightly, only very slightly, astringent, compared with the other maocha I’ve had, which sounds a little like what Falling Water Grotto should produce according to one Sanzui guy who told me about the different characterstics of the different villages. Ugh. This is hard.
I drank about 12-13 infusions before stopping and deciding to take pictures.
The leaves are less red than the autumn picked ones that I’ve had, which would normally mean slightly better processing, although that’s debatable. The tea consists of more younger shoots and such, as you’d imagine from a spring tea. However, the leaves are a bit less thick, and the veins not always as prominent. I don’t know quite what to make of that. All in all, not a bad tea though, and I still have a bit of it left, enough for a side by side comparison with the other Yiwu without knocking myself out. I might do that tomorrow. I also need to buy another white gaiwan so that the tests can be done with as little variation as possible…. and maybe an electronic scale too, just to be precise.
I’ll end this entry with a picture of two fairly complete pickings… one has four buds, the other has five!
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Tagged: young puerh
Dayi and others
November 4, 2006 · 2 Comments
I’m a bit worried. Both Blogspot and Livejournal seem to be blocked off. I hope Xanga won’t get the same treatment.
If it does…. I might ask my girlfriend to post updates for me.
Anyway, I went back to Maliandao today. This wasn’t scheduled. Basically, I made a few tea friends on Sanzui, and I was going to go to Maliandao with one of the guys on Sunday morning. However, he wanted to push it up to this afternoon…. so off we went.
This guy is an artist of sorts, but he also doubles as a buying agent for his friend’s teashop in Beijing. So I met up with him, and we started roaming Chayuan. The first place we went to is one of the Dayi 1st class distributors in Beijing.
What does that mean?
Well, Dayi these days operate in a somewhat complicated manner. Since their stuff is so popular (mostly speculative buying) what happens is that there are a number of 1st class distributors in various regions/cities, and what happens is that you basically are given whatever the Menghai factory decides to assign to you. You, as their first line of distribution, oddly enough do NOT get to choose what goods you get. You also have to pay for all of them, and try to sell them on your own. All risk is yours, while the factory has already made all the money they need by selling to you.
So this places enormous burden/risk on the distributors.
Amazingly enough, the prices of Dayi stuff and the circulation of goods are still quite impressive, and in general Dayi does lack buyers. In fact, prices are sky high, IMO, especially given what I’ve tasted today.
We first tried the 0622 mini-bing. This is the same formula as the bigger 0622 that I tried with BBB. This time, the tea didn’t turn sour, but also because the sales person brewing it did not add nearly as much leaves, and did not brew them nearly as long. The stuff is…. ok. Good for drink it now, but I can’t imagine it tasting good in a few years’ time. One such mini-bing approaches 100RMB. Expensivo.
We then went to another 1st class Dayi distributor and spent most of our afternoon there. We tried a bing that has been rather famous recently, and which is basically all sold out. Nobody in Beijing got the goods (even for the 1st class distributors) — this shipment was taken via Guangzhou. The taste…. ok, so so, but my oh my, it died on us in the 8th infusion. That’s a pretty big no no for puerh, I think, as young cakes should almost never die on you so early if it’s raw. You can taste the water by then, and that’s just….bad. I also think there are some craftsmanship problems.
We tried another cake, this one suggested by my tea friend. It’s not a Dayi cake, and is quite all right. It’s an 03 Bulang cake. The taste reminds me of the Mengku 2002 cake that I bought, maybe this one is slightly better/stronger. However, the price is also 5x “better”, which makes the cake….. not worth the money.
Then I asked to taste a Yichang Hao cake from Qianjia Zhai. It’s quite good tasting…. until the 5th infusion, when the tea started showing signs of dying. By the 7th infusion…. it was gone. Almost no taste. This is from I think 02, and a raw tea, again, shouldn’t die so fast. Something’s wrong. And they want 400 RMB for it. No way!
We left the store shortly thereafter. Had dinner at a local hot pot store, and then, upon my suggestion, went to the Mengku store to compare the 2002 cake with the Bulang. My friend thought they did taste a bit similar. The 2002 is slightly inferior, but the price differential was so substantial that it’s hard to justify getting the Bulang one. He’s basically scouting teas out for his friend, so he said he’ll tell his friend to go taste the cake himself and see if it makes business sense.
We then wandered around Chayuan a little more, and then came to this one store that sells this puerh from a no-name factory. We walked in, and I started picking up cakes to look at.
And then something I hate happens…. the owner, a middle aged woman, was of the “you must know nothing” variety. By that, I mean, she just assumes that we know nothing about puerh. When I asked “what cakes are these”, meaning what mountain, make, etc, she told me “this is a Qizi bing”. DUH! As if I can’t tell. These storekeepers who assume you know nothing piss me off to no end. I mean, while I do not claim to know a lot, I do think I deserve the minimum amount of courtesy and any storekeeper — any good storekeeper anyway — should assume their customer know something about what they’re looking at. Qizi Bing tells me nothing.
Anyway, I looked around, this factory makes cakes that are 400g each. The shape of the cakes are not terribly appealing. They look a bit fat and stunted, but the leaves looked good. I wanted to try one — the Mengsa cake.
Then the owner gave me the “here at Chayuan we only let people sample tea by the gram”, which is technically true, except that NOBODY ever follows that rule, or even so much as mention that rule. Annoying. I ended up trying the six mountain cake (i.e. tea from all six) instead of the Mengsa one. The tea is actually quite good, real big tree tea, nice overall. Asking price is not so nice, and annoyingly, all the cakes from this same factory are selling at the same price, which is ridiculous (because the cost of the materials should be different). When I came back to check on taobao, I can find some of them online, for about half.
I like those cakes. I think they can age well, but I don’t like how much they want. I’ll see if I can go back and get a better price, or find them somewhere else for cheaper on Maliandao. It’s possible…. although somehow I don’t think too likely.
Categories: Old Xanga posts · Teas
Tagged: shopping, young puerh
Burma tea
November 3, 2006 · 4 Comments
Maliandao today.
The usual wandering — I went into a store that had some stuff that I’ve never seen before. And I ended up with one cake:
Yup…. Burma. Now, the owner claims that this is actually not a Burma cake, but the whole thing sounded like what Chinese call “there’s no 300 taels of gold here”, i.e. too much detail about how this is NOT something that it sounds fake. I was, in fact, rather interested in it precisely because it is said to be Burma cake. The taste is also a little odd. I think it’s one of those wild tree teas…. the typical dark green colour with some yellow. The taste was strong. The cha qi, especially, is very strong.
This is how it looks naked
So I bought one for the heck of it — mostly to see how this will taste in some time. After all, tea is not bounded by national borders, and just because it’s not in Yunnan doesn’t mean it can’t be good.
Then I went into a store that sells Cheshun Hao tea. This is an old tea manufacturer whose brand is being revived by a descendent of the family. They got a plaque at one point from the Daoguang Emperor, and it’s now serving more or less as their main advertising thing. The plaque is in Kunming right now, from what I know. The teas are EXPENSIVE. I tasted one toda — 700 RMB a cake. Not cheap by any stretch of imagination, especially for Maliandao. And this is a NEW tea.
So how did the 700 RMB cake taste? It’s very odd. The tea is almost tasteless. There’s a “tea” taste, but there’s very little aroma. There’s a hint of aged taste in it, just a hint, as it’s from spring last year. However… that’s about it. The tea is round, smooth. There’s not much of an aftertaste…. until about 5 minutes after I walked out of the store. Then I could feel it. All in all, a very mellow and boring, almost tasteless tea. I don’t quite know what to make of it.
I then walked around some more and ended up in the store where I bought some dancong with BBB, and tried one of their Yiwu cakes. A bit sweeter, also fairly good, nice, etc, but not top notch, and the price was a little on the high side. The store is a little annoying. There are all sorts of good stuff in there, but all are not for sale. Their owner is apparently somebody who has another business, and whose interest is tea. So, they make all these things that are, actually, for fun, and mostly only for friends and such. I guess I will have to try to make friends with the owner, except he’s not usually around. Oh well…
My last stop was at a store that BBB and I looked at, but didn’t really walk in. I tasted two cakes… both Yiwu. One was better than the other, and I bought two of them.
A bit bitter/astringent, a bit of aroma, some huigan, reasonable mouthfeel/aftertaste. Not expensive. I think the craftsmanship is very good. The quality of the leaves less so. I have hopes that this will age into something decent. I also hope that they will use better materials to make cakes….. this is a store I will come back again and check out, as the owner was very friendly and we had a good conversation. They are two brothers, one of whom is in Yunnan right now making cakes for the fall. Maybe I can tag along in the Spring? I don’t know. It’ll be nice though if I can go with somebody I can sort of trust.
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Tagged: shopping, young puerh
2006 Spring 12 Gentlemen Yiwu
November 2, 2006 · Leave a Comment
Today I drank a rather odd tea. This is a sample I just bought from an online vendor in China. Paying for stuff online here involves going to the bank and putting the money directly in that person’s account, unless you use Alipay, which is sort of like paypal, except more complicated (involving them holding the money for you, you get the goods, and then Alipay will release the cash to the seller once you give the ok — to avoid frauds). So, needless to say, I went through a bit of trouble to get this sample.
This is a small production cake, and the brand is called “12 gentlemen” å二先生. This is supposed to be a semi-wild Yiwu tea from 2006 Spring. It got some decent reviews on Sanzui, so I figured I’d give it a go, since I’ve been sort of on a Yiwu binge these days.
The cake is a little more tightly compressed than I imagined. The leaves don’t look THAT nice. But looks area always deceiving, so I broke off a few pieces and then proceed to brew the tea…
I decided to do 30s infusions early on to see how the tea turns out, and to also standardize the way I taste test teas. The first infusion…. gulp…. tasted like green tea. I was rather surprised to find that, but it reminded me of green tea of all things. I don’t know what kind of green tea exactly, but it’s probably closer to Biluochun than anything else.
The tea brews yellowish liquor. It’s a bit bitter and a bit tannic… just like a green tea. I was a little stunned. While I didn’t exactly pay a lot for it, I guess my expectations were high. I thought maybe I got a fake tea.
Two more infusions, still green tea taste. I was going to give up, then I decided to keep brewing it…
And somehow, the Yiwu taste showed up at around infusion 5-6. I don’t know how, or why, but it did. The Yiwu taste got gradually stronger, and actually I had a very pleasant throat sensation and a Yiwu taste with nice huigan and what not in the later infusions. HOWEVER, the green tea taste bugs me. It’s entirely possible, given that green teas die after a few infusions, that after the first few infusion of the green teas mixed into this cake, I started getting the genuine Yiwu taste, so maybe this cake is a mix of two kinds of leaves — high temperature processed leaves, and Yiwu big tree tea done the traditional way. It would make the most sense if this is what happened.
How will this age?
I have no idea.
The leaves are a bit broken
But that could partly be the way it was broken up when I got it.
Anyway…. the price is not low for this cake, and I’m not sure if I should buy one, as an education piece if nothing else, or if I should just forget it…
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Tagged: young puerh
Testing maocha
October 31, 2006 · 1 Comment
More puerh research today.
I’ve been a bit baffled and confused by all that I’ve been reading these days. The concensus on Sanzui seems to be that a cake is bad for aging if either 1) it has gone through too high a temperature at “kill-green”, which causes it to be like green tea. Green tea, as we all know, age poorly. 2) It has gone through pre-fermentation (I think it means oxidation here), similar to an oolong. These teas will not age as well, and can be just as deadly as the green tea puerh in that after a few years, the tea will get stale and uninteresting.
So, aside from good raw materials, you need good craftsmanship to go with the raw tea to make it a good puerh. Sounds simple enough.
Where, and how, do you find this tea with good craftsmanship and good material though? And how do you identify them when you are there?
Let’s throw materials aside for a second and focus on the craftsmanship bit. Basically, you want to eliminate (again from what I’ve been gathering from Sanzui) puerh that are too prominent in fragrance when early (could be either 1 or 2 above), puerh that have signs of honey smell/taste (indicating 2), puerh that are not bitter/astringent (could be both 1 or 2) at all….
Which still leaves a lot of room for error.
I was drinking my maocha from Yiwu today, using more leaves than I did last time. Somehow, I did not enjoy it nearly as much as I did last time. Something was different about the tea — it tastes a bit aged. While aging might be a bit faster in wild/old tree teas, I don’t think it’s quite THAT fast when one week makes such a big difference. What’s going on? Then I smelled the lid… hmmm, there’s a mix of honey/floral smell AND a smell of that slightly vegetal raw puerh smell. Odd. Supposedly, this smell goes away when processed at too high a temperature because the aromatic component that gives off this smell will be evaporated when the processing temperature is high.
So I was a little suspicious of how this tea was processed. While it has some astringency/bitterness, it’s not that evident. Then again, Yiwu teas are like that. I started looking at the wet leaves, and it seems like… or at least I think it might be, the case that there are maocha of different ages in this mix, and that it is not all the same vintage/batch, but rather different ones mixed in together. Maybe last time the bit that I pulled out consisted mostly of younger leaves, thus it tasted so fresh, while this time it is a bit of a mixed bag, and thus the aromatics/taste was a bit…. confused?
I then decided to brew up another maocha to compare. I brewed the Nannuo maocha that I have leftover. I also brewed up a sample again of the Yiwu cake that I got.
It’s a very interesting experiment. The Nannuo maocha brewed up a HIGHLY aromatic cup. The leaves, when I smelled them after the infusion, smelled very strongly of some sort of flower/honey. Hmmm. The taste was sweet, mild, not bitter/astringent. Hmmm.
Compared to this, the Yiwu cake was much more boring. Not much aromatics, a bit of a sweet smell afterwards, but when I smell the wet leaves, there’s basically nothing to it aside from a hint of sweetness. Compared to the Nannuo…. the difference is striking.
Here are some pictures. Unfortunately, visually they don’t say much.
From left to right is the Nannuo, Yiwu cake, and Yiwu maocha. Sorry for the lighting — the Yiwu maocha got less light.
Nannuo
Cake
Yiwu maocha
Some of the Yiwu maocha were reddish brown throughout, which is why I thought something was aged about them (coupled with the way it tasted). It also reminds me a hint of the Zhenchunya Hao taste, as well as the Yiwu Zhenpin taste. I need to ask that girl if this was a mixed bag. Unfortunately, she may very well not know either.
This didn’t really get me any closer to answering any of my questions. I can’t say that the Nannuo won’t age well, and the Yiwu might, or vice versa. All I learned is that the difference between different levels of aroma is stunning.
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Tagged: musings, young puerh
A disappointment
October 19, 2006 · Leave a Comment
The first thing I did was go to a store that I’ve read about on Sanzui, where they sell a Yiwu tea from a somewhat famous boutique producer. When I got there, however, there was only one storekeep there, and she said she’s really quite inexperienced — been on the job for about a month, and never dealt with tea before. She only has authorization for me to taste their crappiest Yiwu cake, which she said is from shortened tea trees that are about 100 years old. There was a more promising cake that is made up of arbor leaves of a few hundred years old, but she needs to clear it with her boss (no immediately available sample) and I didn’t want to bother. The Yiwu I tasted was… ok. Not great. Lacking a good aftertaste, a bit flat, not a lot of huigan, makes my throat dry. They want 200 RMB for it, I wouldn’t pay more than 50, even though it’s pleasant to drink…. but not great.
So I went out hunting for other things. Then I remembered seeing the Liji Guzhuang tea store, so I went in there to take a look. They only have one king of raw cake on sale. There are some other stuff they sell from other brands, none too appealing.
I tried the Liji stuff. It’s ok. Not great. Not very cheap, but I’m sure I can bargain it down. Then again, it’s not impressive, and I decided that since I am not going to do shotgun buying of everything… I will only buy things that I am impressed by. This one is not one of them. It tastes quite ordinary…. maybe a little better than ordinary, but not a lot better. Incidentally, the two storekeepers here are also young girls (18) with no tea industry experience. What’s with all these girls who know nothing about tea trying to sell me puerh??? There are lots of them. It’s a little sad seeing them stay in this place with no natural sunlight and no opportunity to go out, but I suppose this beats them staying in their villages or wherever they’re actually from. They are not going to college (probably can’t… for various reasons) and wasting their life away in a dark tea store…
So…. I left again.
I wandered around Chayuan a bit. I should’ve taken a picture of the interior there, but basically, it’s a grid system with something like 7-8 avenues and two or three crossstreets. It’s a little disorienting, especially if you don’t have a clear aim. My anchor point is the washroom, which is on one side of the mall. Otherwise, they all look pretty much the same.
I saw this other place afterwards… a place that sells direct from a Guoyan Factory, all puerh. So I went in there to see what they’ve got.
I ended up spending most of my afternoon there. It always turns out that way — I go to a few places, settle down in one and do some serious tasting.
At this place, I looked at almost all their raw cakes, most of which are just regular crap. Then, there was this 2004 cake that looked ok. I tasted it…. nothing to write home about…. although it probably will age into something ok. At $5 USD a piece, it’s not too bad. Then I tried a banzhang cake of theirs. Tastes like… a banzhang cake, quite strong, a bit bitter, and the cha qi was hitting me. I was getting a little dizzy again. It seems like banzhang tea does bad things to me. There was a bit of smoke at the beginning of this tea but then fades away. I wonder if this is a banzhang thing, or if I was just getting tea drunk. I thought about getting it… until I saw this brick.
The brick looks good. It looks loosely compressed (for a brick anyway), aged, shiny, smells nice… with a hint of that “wild” smell that I’ve been talking about, so I picked it up. They didn’t have a sample, but the guy eventually broke one open for me to taste. Nice, aged, well stored, still got a very strong “bite” while having a lot of aged puerh taste. Quite a good brick…. not the strongest qi or a very strong “throat aftertaste”, but… it’s cheap!
I ended up with four of them. I wanted to get more, but I decided to stop myself from getting more before I get a better taste of it. I think I will eventually snap up a few more though. It’s great for drink it now… I’ll be happy drinking this everyday as my “regular pu”
So I left the store with 4 bricks. Then, I thought I should drop by the store where I ordered those Yiwu cakes to make sure they’re on their way.
Bad news — they said the cakes are sold out! Crap.
I did get my deposit back, but I am bummed. I REALLY liked those cakes. I still think they’re easily the best new stuff I’ve tasted on Maliandao so far. Why???
I pressed the question. They said the guy who produced it said he doesn’t have any more cakes. But when we talked last week, it was fine, and his daughter talked to him herself. Did someone pay a higher price? I wonder. I looked around — that girl’s there, but she’s not saying anything to me. I looked on the shelf — that half-tasted cake is gone, nowhere to be found. I was hoping maybe I can at least buy that. Yes, I liked it that much.
So I walked out, dejected. They wanted to give me a mini-bing of cooked puerh for free as a sort of compensation. I refused. I was quite mad with them. I got the feeling that something’s not quite right, especially with the disappearance of the cake from the shelf.
Just when I was standing out there in the parking lot looking rather sad, that girl whose dad makes these cakes came up to me (she walked out earlier). Turns out the boss of the place got mad at them for selling stuff that isn’t hers, and I guess she is preventing the sale from happening. I can understand, in fact, I suspected as much. She didn’t look too pleased last week when I was there and didn’t buy a single thing of hers (and splurged on this rather expensive tong of stuff). None of her tea even comes close, so it makes sense for her to eliminate this competition from which she earns nothing.
So… now I am trying to work it out with this girl to pick up the tea, which apparently is already in town. We’re probably going to make the trade tomorrow. I’m rather happy 🙂
I walked around Chayuan a little more, and found a few Yichang Hao stuff that I want to try, but I am stuffed with tea, and I knew I couldn’t take anymore without feeling sick, so I left it at that, and headed home.
More on the brick in a few days, and hopefully, the new Yiwu 🙂
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Tagged: shopping, young puerh
Interesting.... would 250C in my oven work?