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Late night tea tasting

May 24, 2007 · 1 Comment

I went out for tea with L just now. He’s flying out of town tomorrow and won’t be back in Beijing for a while, so we decided to catch up over some tea.

While we talked about various things, including his very recent experiences of drinking a number of “Hao level” tea (i.e. stuff that is at least 60 years old), we drank a tea he brought over — a 1990s “Orange Label”. It’s a very strange tea. I think something was wrong with the storage, as it smells very musty, like the old books and documents that I deal with on a daily basis. The tea is reasonable… but personally, I did not like it. It didn’t have much qi, despite the liberal amount of leaves used, and it didn’t have a lot of aftertaste other than a somewhat uncomfortable astringency that is present very early on. The aroma…. is musty old books. L wants to try to sell it, but I don’t think I’d buy it if I were a customer.

Meanwhile, he was telling me some of the news from the market, including how Menghai’s 7542 is now “merely” 13000/jian, and even at that price there are very few takers. He met somebody at the recent Tea Expo in Changsha who bought 400 jian of this stuff at 18000 a piece. You can calculate his losses. New Menghai teas are still not on the market yet, and he said (don’t know if true or not) that Menghai has problems with the quality of the maocha they received and issues with their mixing of formulas, so until that got sorted out… no new teas will show up. Seems to make sense, as it’s been about two months since anything new has come out of that factory.

I guess I’ll find out all this for myself this weekend when I make my customary trip to Maliandao.

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Tea samples

May 22, 2007 · 10 Comments

Is there anybody who hasn’t gotten their sample yet?  I think most of you have.

Let me know if you’ve had a chance to taste them.

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Chenyuan Hao Yiwu

May 19, 2007 · 1 Comment

I drank a sample today sent to me from a guy in Tainan.  It’s a Chenyuan Hao Yiwu, which is one of those Taiwanese teahouses that does their own cakes.  I think this one is from 2002 or something, although I can’t quite remember exactly when.  Regardless…

You can see it’s the “aged a bit” look.  It also smells “aged a bit”, definitely dry stored.

The first picture is of the second infusion, and the second is of about… 6th?  Something like that.  The tea is surprisingly bitter for what it’s worth.  I remember I reviewed it a long time ago, pretty much when I first arrived in Beijing, and thought it to be very drying.  I thought it had to do with Beijing storage… but apparently not.  In this sample, even though stored in Tainan, definitely a wet place, the tea is STILL drying… by about the third infusion my throat was drying up, and feeling rather uncomfortable.  Even though the flavours of the tea was fine — a bit sweet, with dried plums taste, and in the third infusion, I thought for a second I was drinking a fizz-free coca-cola — the feeling of the tea was definitely unpleasant.

It did improve after about 6-7 infusions to a better taste, but given the unpleasant feeling early on, it made me think that the tea was simply not worth it, even if it’s cheap.  Especially considering that yesterday’s tea was so smooth and without any of these problems, I can’t say I enjoyed today’s sample, generous though it was from the guy who sent it out, as I think this tea is not cheap now.

Looking at the leaves… I wonder if it’s even big tree tea.  There was definitely some “throat feel” (anybody got a better name for this feeling?  I can’t think of one) it was…. too bitter and astringent.

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Tasting the new cake

May 18, 2007 · 5 Comments

As promised, I actually tried the new cake I bought today.  Since I was talking about lighting and picture taking though, I decided to take another set of pictures in daylight to compare with the ones I took last time under artificial light.  Looks different again…

I broke off a piece

And I made the tea.  Jackson joined me today for the tasting.

The tea is smooth.  It brews up an orangy-yellow colour, and the initial taste resembles a Yiwu, but I think as it went on for a bit, I discovered that it is a little darker than a Yiwu.  Maybe it’s more like a Manzhuan tea or something, I’m not sure.  That might also explain the cheaper price.  Whatever it is… it’s not pure Yiwu old tree tea.

That, however, doesn’t detract from the tea itself.  There was some smoke, which Jackson thought was a cigarette sort of taste, although I just think it’s smoke (maybe because I’ve never smoked a cigarette?).  It went away after about two to three infusions.  The tea… tastes like…. tea.  It doesn’t leave much aftertaste at the tip of the tongue, but it leaves a strong huigan at the back with a consistent feeling around the throat area.

What’s most interesting though is that even though this is more or less a fall tea, the tea is VERY smooth… which was a little surprising.  I have known fall teas as more astringent than spring teas, but this one somehow defies expectations.  It didn’t do the “astringent after five infusions” thing either.  It really only showed up around infusion 10, and even then… only a very mild sort of astringency.  Is that a good or a bad thing?

I worried a little about its processing, and wondered if they got rid of the astringency with oolong fermentation or something.  No, I don’t think so… there was very little aroma in the cup.  It’s not fragrant enough to be an oolong tea, I think, and still retains a good bit of bitterness.

A little odd, I think, but ultimately, I think I will go back and buy a few more given the price and the quality.  I don’t think I can really pick out any problems with the tea, which is sort of a rare thing.  Other than the smoke, which I’m sure will go away (the sample I tried at the store, which has been stored in the open, wasn’t really smokey at all), I don’t think there was anything else wrong with the tea.

I guess only time will tell…

Some wet leaves for you to look at

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Pictures

May 17, 2007 · 4 Comments

Today I present you with three teas:

Oh wait, it’s the same one.

I didn’t even take them under different lighting conditions — I merely photoshopped them.

Which one’s the “unedited” one?

You can see how different they look… and I’ve noticed that even in natural sunlight, the colour can be off.  It’s a very annoying thing with digital cameras, I suppose.  The lighting is never quite right.  If the white balance of the camera is off when the picture is taken, then you might have really distorted colours.  When buying on the internet… colour changes can really change your perception of a cake.  It’s not like anybody even has to try to fix the pictures — without actively trying to doctor them, it can still come out being different from the real deal.

Unfortunately, that’s one of the risks of buying online.  When I try to show my cakes, I try to make it so that the colour isn’t too far off from what I see with my naked (well, glasses enhanced) eyes, but it’s never quite 100%…

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Tea tasting update

May 16, 2007 · Leave a Comment

A few of you have started receiving the teas I sent out.

Please DO NOT post any notes anywhere, yet.

I wish everybody to have a chance to drink it before seeing other people’s comments (which can cloud their judgement).  Therefore, if you could hold off from talking about it in public, that’ll be appreciated.  Of course, I can’t stop you from talking in private.

I’ll post up an entry in about a week’s time and ask for comments on the tea then.  You can post the comments in that entry.  I think that should give everybody a chance to drink it.

Enjoy :).  No bleach was involved in the process of preparation, by the way.  Some of you have actually asked.

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Yiwu, Yiwu, Yiwu

May 16, 2007 · 5 Comments

I had dinner with a friend and his wife today.  Between library’s closing and dinner, however, there was a two hour gap.  What to do?

Ah, there is a tea store near the place where we were meeting that I’ve gone to once to look at (but not taste) some cakes.  That was a few months ago.  Maybe I can go again and get some free tea out of them to cure my budding tea headache.  The cakes also looked nice too.

So I went there.  I think it’s a pretty upscale tea store, with a second floor that serves as a teahouse for people to drink tea there.  The cakes I looked at last time were some Yiwu pressed by themselves, supposedly, although some cakes obviously had the neifei ripped out of the cakes.  That, to me, indicates that somebody is being dishonest and selling something at an inflated price without wanting you to know where they got it from.  That’s usually the only reason why you’d do such a thing.  I didn’t feel like pointing it out, but I’m sure they have an elaborate reason, anywhere from “oh, the neifeis were mistakenly put in because they mixed up the two batches” to “we had agreed to sell these cakes to another tea house, using their neifei, but they reneged on the order”.  Whatever it is… it’s just a story.

The ripped out neifei is in special contrast with the neifeis for their 07 cakes, which are definitely their own and deeply embedded in the cake.  Why the contrast?  Even more suspect.

But anyway, when I saw the 07 cakes, I decided I want to give them a taste.  I haven’t really tried many new cakes yet, this year’s production being very slow and new teas are still not arriving on the markets in bulk (many are only getting to Kunming now, I heard).  Prices being astronomical, it also gives me less incentive to try new stuff.  But I figured… what the hell.

I asked to try the Yiwu Zhengshan.  There were four new 07 cakes on the shelf.  One is called Yiwu Zhengshan.  The other three are Mahei, Luoshuidong, and Daqishu, three smaller sub-areas of Yiwu.  The Yiwu Zhengshan is 600 RMB, Mahei is 1800, and the other two are similarly high priced (1000+).  1800 is something like… 250 USD.  Extremely high for one 357g cake, considering that maocha this year in this region costs something around 500 RMB/kg, max.  Divide it up to 357g, it means a raw cost of…. 180 RMB.  Add in overhead, rent, labour, transportation… 400 RMB would already net them a reasonable profit.  600 a good one, and 1800….. an exorbitant one.  Their 05 and 06 teas are even more expensive, with 05 Yiwus being something like 3000 a cake.  Considering that is almost two months’ salary for a storekeep… it’s quite crazy.

Anyway, so I tried the “cheapest” tea there.  It looks quite good, actually, small buds, hairy, robust.  The tea is good, tastes nice, with depth and qi, and a nice huigan.  Can’t complain too much other than tasting a little green and a little rougher on the tongue than I’d expect from a buddy spring tea.  Definitely an old tree as advertised.  Is it worth 600?  No way.

Meanwhile, I think I have impressed the owner with enough of my knowledge of Yiwu area that she thinks I’m some sort of expert.  When I’m in a tea store, I don’t mind masquerading as an expert as you get better treatment, instant discount, and nicer teas.  One of the things you can do to pretend to be an expert is actually very simple — just being able to rewrap a cake nicely gains instant credit.  When they see you can rewrap a cake beautifully, with no extra paper sticking out and no wrinkles on the front (oftentimes better than they can rewrap it themselves) then they will automatically respect you.  Try it next time you’re in a teastore — make sure you insist on rewrapping it yourself and proceed to do it right away.

Anyway… what I was getting at was that the owner wanted me to try the Mahei.  I said it’s ok, but she insisted.  Sure… I’m not going to pass up the change to drink this rather exorbitantly priced tea.  I know I won’t buy it even if it’s really good.  It’s simply too expensive for what it is.

The Mahei definitely has energy, and is also definitely old tree.  It is, however, also definitely overpriced.  In my opinion, it’s not even as good as the 600 kuai one, since it gave out quite quickly into a rather bland tea.  I’m not exactly sure why… but I’ve always found Mahei to be a bit weak, and this one’s no exception.  I have a feeling that Mahei teas, on their own, don’t do so well in aging.  I could be wrong, but I’ve had 2-3 years old Mahei tea stored in Guangzhou that didn’t impress me.  This one definitely didn’t impress me.

They tried to hardsell me, asking me which one I want and how amazing they are.  I equivocated, and eventually fled the scene.  I think I need to walk around the corner next time instead of right in front of their store.

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New cake

May 15, 2007 · 7 Comments

I bought a new cake today, haven’t done that for a while other than that one extra cake I sent out for tasting.

I went to Tianshan Tea City today after going to a talk by some professor.  It was held in the vicinity of the tea city, so I figured I’ll stop by there before eating dinner.

I wandered a bit, and ended up in a puerh store I’ve never really looked at before.  I unwrapped all their cakes and decided to taste the one Yiwu they had.  I think it’s good… definitely has notes that I’d recognize as old tree, although perhaps a little less powerful than I wanted.  But then I inquired about the price… and it was a very attractive price.  Too attractive, almost.  I tasted another tea, a Nannuo, and it was almost double the price of the Yiwu, yet not really quite as good, in my opinion.  So I ended up taking two of the Yiwus home.  I might go back and buy a whole tong… still giving it some thought.  There’s a possibility that this tea is not pure old tree, but has some younger stuff mixed in, but the taste is quite right — unmistakable Yiwu.

So here’s some pictures for you to look at.

The neipiao doesn’t say anything about curing cancer!!!

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Fannings

May 14, 2007 · 1 Comment

Back in Shanghai, and what do I drink?  Fannings.  These are little pieces of tea that are, essentially, the bottom of the pile stuff — leftover from a puerh sample.  I threw them into a cup, poured hot water, and drank (after they sank to the bottom, of course).  Surprisingly, it wasn’t that bitter, and was not that rough.  I’m not sure why, but it actually worked rather well.  I didn’t really want any of the other teas I have that can be used for the grandpa method, so I decided to do this.  I must say I’m rather happy with the results.

I still have some more fannings, maybe I should drink them all this way.

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Last and perhaps least – Youle maocha

May 8, 2007 · 1 Comment

Finally, the last of the six packs of maocha was drunk.  It was the Youle maocha, and I must say…. sometimes last really is least.

I did the same thing I did the past 5 times, warming the gaiwan, opening the bag, taking a picture:

Then taking another one when I dumped the tea into the gaiwan:

My thoughts about this is that it looked slightly greener than the other ones, and also…. it looked more like white tea than any of the other ones.  All the other teas yelled “Yunnan maocha for puerh”, but this one… if you just showed it to me, I might have mistaken it for a white tea of some unknown variety.  The smell is still very much that of a very young maocha, but the looks…. is not, not really.

I washed the leaves, brewed it up…. it was, just like the last five, a very thick tea.  The bubbles don’t burst no matter how you blow on them.  The tea looks like it has a film of stuff on top in the sense that there was a sort of tension on the surface of the tea that is visible.  It looks slightly like a runny jelly rather than a cup of tea.  All the maochas shared this, which I think is a good thing.  A thin tea is always a recipe for disaster.  Or just a bad tea.

It tasted… peachy?  A little bit.  A little less bitter than yesterday’s despite having a little more leaves in it.  There were also some notes that were similar to the Wangzhi and the Gedeng… the very tea-ish taste with clear bitterness in the back dissipating into a huigan.  The cooling effect coats more of the front of the mouth than yesterday’s, which was mostly in the back.  The “throat feel” is not as strong, but still there.

However, the tea didn’t last as many infusions as those of previous days.  Somewhere around maybe infusion 12-15, the tea started giving up on me.  I’m not exactly sure why.  Also, now, as I’m typing it, I am no longer tasting the tea.  All the previous 5, with the possible exception of the Yiwu (since I drank a few things afterwards) left me feeling the tea hours after they were downed.  This one… didn’t last as long.

I think one reason could be the tenderness of the tea.  If you look at the wet leaves… the leaves are very small.  I also wonder if it’s because this is partly tea that are of the smaller leafed variety that supposedly populate some areas of the Six Mountains.

With the ever-present toothpick, you can see that these were smaller than leaves of the previous days.  Also, these were pretty much the only really intact ones I could find today.  The rest were all more broken up, a little on the thin side, or both.  It seems like this sample just wasn’t as good and robust as those of the previous 5.

This is, of course, not to say that this was a bad tea.

The six samples have all been very enjoyable.  The contrast in their flavours have been interesting, as has the differences, however small, in how my mouth reacted to them.  I remember reading, at some point, how different area teas have different reactions in one’s mouth — if the feelings are in a certain “zone” it could be an indicator of a tea from a certain area, sort of like a signature.  I never quite believed it, and I’m still not sure I subscribe to it entirely.  However, I did notice differences in where I was feeling certain things.  More importantly, it is worth remembering that while flavours can be faked or masked, where one feel’s a sensation of coolness (if there is any at all!), the duration of such feeling, the qi, the “throat feel”, and that sort of thing are, I’d say, impossible to fake for even the best forgers.  Therefore… ultimately it is those aspects of a tea that differentiates a merely reasonable Yiwu from a great Yiwu, and ditto for all other tea areas.  I think what I have noted here is that every single one of these teas had a strong, obvious, and usually immediate huigan, with a lasting feeling in the back of the mouth or even the throat of some sort of coolness.  This is not a sensation that can be found in every tea, and I think is a must if a tea claims to be “old” or “ancient” tree (arbor, on the other hand, can be a pretty young tree with no claim to an old age).

I feel like I should give acknowledgment where it’s due.  The company that gave me these samples is:

And their website can be found here. That said, I must say that I have only tried a few cakes of theirs in Beijing.  Quality varies, and prices are not too low.  They do have pretty decent quality teas though.  Anyway, I think that’s enough publicity for the (quite instructive!) free samples they gave me.

I think I will put these reviews in the links to the left so you can come back and look at the pictures with ease.  I may also re-taste these once L gets back to Shanghai, as he has a set, and so does AC.

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