Every so often, I get people asking me if I would get into the tea business. After all, I’m well located for it, I spend a lot of time hunting for teas anyway, and I always talk about things that people can’t buy easily in the West, so if I don’t provide it, who would? I’ve always refused, because I don’t want to become a vendor, which would compromise my ability to speak freely on my blog here, and it also simply isn’t what I want to do.
At the same time, I do want to send people tea to share, especially if it’s something they can’t find easily. I send samples to friends often, but usually only in a limited capacity. My last attempt at a big tea distribution, which took place in 2007, taught me to not do it again. It’s a real drag – spending a lot of time, effort, and money. I did get feedback on both samples, but I felt the experience underwhelming and ultimately rather superficial, so I never did it again. Buying things for people can often end badly, so I don’t usually do that either.
Recently I’ve been thinking about what’s useful in terms of learning about tea. And then, at a recent tasting I hosted for two friends in Portland, it hit me that comparative drinking is really at the core of what we do when we try to learn more about teas. You can’t know what is good without knowing what is bad, just like you can’t be aware of the range of possible tastes among shuixian if all you’ve had are light roasted ones. Sampling is about broadening horizons, and it is a low risk way to stretch into areas that you might not be familiar with.
So with that in mind, I think there’s something that I can do here that’s both intellectually interesting and not devolve into just merely selling tea. Working off the idea of having flights of tea, I am going to try and organize what I call Curated Samples. These are teas that I have found that I believe, together, will hold some educational/learning value. In other words, I think the samples, together as a group, will have more value than merely sum of the parts. They are going to be limited in quantity – perhaps 20-30 sets at a time. They are also going to happen pretty infrequently – currently I am thinking perhaps 2-3 times a year, depending on whether inspiration strikes or not and whether it is practical or not. Some will take a considerable amount of time to gather – for example I want to do one with age Taiwan oolongs, showing what I think are the four or five standard “types” that exist out there, but finding the right teas in sufficient quantity will take a good amount of time, so that will be ready when it’s ready.
These samples will have to be sold, to pay for the tea, the material, and the time and effort to acquire them. What will not happen is that the samples will not be sold separately – it’s either all or nothing. Also, there will be no more of the teas, even if you love them. If they are acquirable (sometimes they are) I am happy to show you around if you come to Hong Kong, but as currently conceived, at least some of these are not going to be found anywhere. If you liked them, well, I’m glad, and I hope you took good notes so next time you run into a tea like it, you’ll know. Of course, because of the nature of the Curated Samples, I am not going to say you’ll love them all. Some will be placed in these sets precisely because they make a point, rather than because they’re enjoyable, although I’d imagine at least a few teas each time should be pleasant. Pricing of the samples will differ depending on the teas we’re dealing with. Since this is an educationally minded project, if you can prove to me you’re a current student somewhere, I will give you a discount.
Having said all that, the first set of samples I want to provide is going to be around roasting. Specifically, it will be the same tea, a tieguanyin, repeated five times, but with 0, 15, 30, 45, and 60 hours of roasting by the seller. Only the 60 hours version is what the shop sells – the rest I requested with a special order for him to do for me, and are teas that he doesn’t think taste very good but will do anyway, because I asked for a favour. I just got a call two days ago that he’s about to start roasting them, so they’re being roasted as I type this, and I should get them by the end of the week. There should be a total of about 25-30 spaces.
I’ll write more on the teas when I have them in hand. In the meantime, if you are interested in this, please let me know via the comments. This way I can gauge if people actually want this sort of thing, and, should there be greater interest than I have space for, I have to devise a way to make sure distribution is fair.
82 responses so far ↓
ira // September 17, 2012 at 1:36 am |
Please count me in! Thank you!!!
Tomas // September 17, 2012 at 2:20 am |
Hi, I’m interested, so count me in. I will continue to watch your blog, so you can contact me directly or I will remind myself after the samples will be available.
Tomas // September 17, 2012 at 2:21 am |
By the way, how much will every sample weight? I suggest at least 15 grams, so one can prepare twice a 7,5 gram tea session.
MarshalN // September 17, 2012 at 2:34 am |
Current plans are having 25g for each of the samples except the last (60 hours roast) which will be 50g. I believe in bigger samples. Too small and they are meaningless.
Michael Vincent // September 17, 2012 at 2:29 am |
Yay!!! Please count me in too! …and thank you!
Petr Novák // September 17, 2012 at 2:30 am |
I am in…thanks for the work.
Chris // September 17, 2012 at 2:37 am |
Please include me too if there’s room. This sounds like an excellent idea.
Chris Birkett // September 17, 2012 at 2:40 am |
Sign me up, Marshal!
Chris // September 17, 2012 at 2:40 am |
This is exactly what I am looking for! I am a student at Cedarville University in Ohio USA (I could email you a copy of my transcript if you need proof) and I have a huge passion for tea and love to learn about it. This would be a great help. Thanks so much!
Jakub Tomek // September 17, 2012 at 2:43 am |
Yes please!
Andrew // September 17, 2012 at 2:48 am |
Terrific idea. I’d like to participate if there are still sets available.
Margaret Leighton // September 17, 2012 at 3:21 am |
Fantastic – me too!! (And, yes, I am still a student… *sigh* )
Kathy // September 17, 2012 at 4:37 am |
I’d like to be included if there’s space also please
discipleofthetealeaf // September 17, 2012 at 5:06 am |
I would very happily take part!
TokyoB // September 17, 2012 at 5:13 am |
Great concept. Count me in.
TokyoB
Ziga // September 17, 2012 at 5:33 am |
Hi, this is a fantastic idea. Please count me in.
Matthew // September 17, 2012 at 5:48 am |
Great idea. I’ve recently begun my journey of tea education, and I’d be interested…
Matej // September 17, 2012 at 5:48 am |
Count me in!
David // September 17, 2012 at 5:55 am |
This is a very good idea. It looks like a great opportunity to learn, which is something I am really interested in. Many thanks for this.
Alex // September 17, 2012 at 6:19 am |
Very interested! Great idea.
And I wouldn’t shy away from doing some actual selling, or acting as a consultant to someone who has a tea business. For instance, the Mandarin’s Tearoom could carry a MarshalN line.
Antonio // September 17, 2012 at 6:19 am |
Hi, I would be very happey to be able to participate.
Thank you very much!
Dmitriy // September 17, 2012 at 6:27 am |
I`d love to take part too! Thank you very much!
Joe C // September 17, 2012 at 6:50 am |
What an excellent idea and opportunity! I especially like that you will be including some teas “to make a point.” Count me in!
Why do I feel like someone just gave me backstage passes to a Rolling Stones concert?
Laurent C. // September 17, 2012 at 6:51 am |
Thank you for sharing this opportunity. I would be pleased to participate.
JayinHK // September 17, 2012 at 6:59 am |
Absolutely M, thank you for doing this! I love TGY and have only tried three or four so far!
Jay
Tony Gebely // September 17, 2012 at 6:59 am |
Please count me in. Tony.
Kim // September 17, 2012 at 7:01 am |
I’d like to join The University of MarshalN, too !!
Sarah Cowell // September 17, 2012 at 7:25 am |
Hi Marshal, I’m keen to purchase a set. I offer tea education and tastings in Australia, and this would be great for learning. Maybe even a session for the AustralAsian Specialty Tea Association I’m part of. Please let me know via sarah.cowell.tea@gmail.com if I can take part.
Thank you,
With gratitude
Sarah Cowell
Christopher M. // September 17, 2012 at 7:30 am |
It’s been a few years since I’ve signed up for any classes, but I’d love to take part, and especially again when the aged oolong course is available!
Thanks for your generosity!
Israel Tockman // September 17, 2012 at 7:32 am |
I’m in. Oh definitely.
Rodney // September 17, 2012 at 7:39 am |
I’d would like to join!!
Rodney
Amber // September 17, 2012 at 9:05 am |
I would definitely be interested.
diprey // September 17, 2012 at 9:23 am |
Sounds interesting… Please count me in
Hster // September 17, 2012 at 9:50 am |
Me too!!! Or me thirty two!!! I hope tasting such teas will not make me into a Puccini lover and make me lose my rustic tastes.
MarshalN // September 17, 2012 at 9:53 am |
Seems like we have quorum.
I don’t promise anything decent tasting other than the final product, which should be pretty good high fired TGY. Everything in between is half-baked, literally. No Puccini lover there.
Aaron // September 17, 2012 at 10:21 am |
I too would absolutely love to take to take part in this! I’ve been trying to expand my horizons on my own and it can be a little tricky, especially in the area of puerh. Hopefully there’s still room!
sisois // September 17, 2012 at 10:26 am |
If there’s still any chance at all, I’d definitely love to be included!
It’s a marvelous idea – the perfect way to build real understanding of tea.
Signup policy | A Tea Addict's Journal // September 17, 2012 at 10:40 am |
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Tom Ivey // September 17, 2012 at 11:01 am |
I am certainly interested. I like this approach very much.
Math // September 17, 2012 at 11:25 am |
I hope there’s place for me too!! This would really be something! Would love to be part of this. Good examples of aged oolongs is so hard to come by!
Mauricio Exposito // September 17, 2012 at 11:25 am |
Hi Marshal, please count me in.
Maxwell2079
Michelle // September 17, 2012 at 11:29 am |
If there is any room left I would love to participate! I saw this last night – wish I had responded then.
Marlon // September 17, 2012 at 11:38 am |
I would love to take part in the tasting as well!
Tobias // September 17, 2012 at 11:51 am |
A bit late perhaps but I’m also interested.
Enrique // September 17, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
I like the idea, please include me. I will be staying for one day in Hong Kong in my way to Beijing on November 1st, perhaps we could meet.
Emmett // September 17, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
I’m all in of course.
Hektor Konomi // September 17, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
I’d like to take part, if it is possible.
Thank you
Mike_B // September 17, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
Sounds interesting. Count me in too.
John // September 17, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
Please count me in too! Thank you for the opportunity
Maxwell2079 // September 17, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
Please count me in !!
Thanks for the offering.
DougH // September 17, 2012 at 7:53 pm |
Great idea! I’d like to participate, though it looks like I’m very late to the party.
tst // September 17, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
Current student interested in participating!
trent // September 17, 2012 at 8:13 pm |
Count me in as well.
Brian // September 17, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
Please count me in as well! This would be a fantastic opportunity for those of us overseas who are eager to learn how to discern what effects different processing methods have on tea, but lack access to the necessary information and samples to do so. Thank you MarshalN for proposing this project, your efforts in this regard are much appreciated. Without such opportunities many of us are left at the mercy of online tea vendors and whatever meager scraps of information they are willing to provide.
Phillip Bloom // September 17, 2012 at 11:46 pm |
Wonderful proposal! I would love to join, as well.
cha bing // September 18, 2012 at 4:05 am |
This sounds great, please consider me for the lottery.
SilentChaos // September 18, 2012 at 6:07 am |
I am so definitely interested!!
Ondřej Praxl // September 18, 2012 at 5:02 am |
I am deeply interested. I would like to join too. Please count me in.
Dede Miller // September 18, 2012 at 7:53 am |
I’m interested! How exciting. I’m a total novice. The idea of a curated sample set for educational purposes is very alluring! Thank you for organizing this. Dede
Johan // September 18, 2012 at 10:17 am |
A truly commendable initiative! I would be very happy to participate in this, if possible.
psychanaut // September 18, 2012 at 11:42 am |
Yes–and does being a teacher still count as that “educational discount”? 🙂
MarshalN // September 18, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
No, sorry, I’m a teacher too :p
Joe K // September 18, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
I’d be interested as well…maybe more for the puerh than the TGY. I’ve lurked here for a while, always interested in what you’re blogging about. I get together to taste with other NYC people, some of whom you may know.
mushymush // September 19, 2012 at 3:04 am |
Thank you very much for your initiative! I would love to join too, if possible!
Alecks Kim // September 19, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
Your current post encouraged me to chime in here too, despite the 65 replies that it has currently. Trying 5 different levels of roasting for the same TKY seems like something that heretofore only industry insiders would have access to. But if I miss out on this one I’ll still look forward to your next one!
Jenny Wren // September 19, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
Definitely interested in this.
Jesse Örö // September 20, 2012 at 12:22 am |
Hi! I would like to participate. Although I assume the line is getting quite long already…
Lisa Y. // September 20, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
Please count me in. Thanks!
Vladimir Marjanovic // September 20, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
Thumbs up for the idea – please do count me in, if it is still possible,
Best ,
Vladimir
Matti Kalliokorpi // September 21, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
Hi Marshal! If you’re still accepting new people, please count me in also.
-Matti
Curated Sample #1 | A Tea Addict's Journal // September 26, 2012 at 10:38 am |
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charlene // January 3, 2013 at 12:28 pm |
hey! just came across this now. would love to join if it is still happening! sad I missed out on the last few. charlene
Reagan // June 11, 2013 at 2:44 pm |
Hi,
I suppose I’ve missed out on the first curated sample, but would love to be included when the next one goes out, so please count me in. Would love to try the first one too if its still possible.
Reagan
emilio delpozo // June 19, 2013 at 11:55 am |
I just found this,I’d love to take part!
MarshalN // June 19, 2013 at 12:13 pm |
Perhaps next time – I’m working on something now and maybe it’ll be ready in a month or so.
Josef // July 31, 2013 at 3:32 am |
Such a great idea, would love to know about any progress.
Julius // September 26, 2013 at 5:11 pm |
Are there any more of the curated samples happening?
MarshalN // September 29, 2013 at 9:36 pm |
Good thing you asked – I’ve been working on an idea, still trying to figure out what would work. I think I’ve found something, but life intervenes – I am hoping to have it ready in a few weeks.
Beepboop // August 15, 2014 at 6:41 pm |
This is a great idea! I’d definitely be interested in a curated sample set as I’ve definitely found myself thinking that while I drink a lot of tea I don’t necessarily know how to identify a brilliant tea from a decent tea or a decent tea from a bad tea.
Let me know if you’re thinking of doing another round of these.
Out of curiosity, how much did the last one cost?
MarshalN // August 27, 2014 at 9:33 pm |
Although I have arranged some of the teas for my next idea, it’s been put on hiatus as I’ve just got too many things going on atm.
DanSouza // February 25, 2015 at 7:54 pm |
Just landed on your page and love what you are doing for tea. I live in Boston and have been drinking gongfu on the weekends and “grandpa style” consistently throughout the week for quite a few years now. Looks like the curated project may not be up and running any more but I would very interested in being involved if you get it going again. Thanks for your work.
Tomas // March 1, 2015 at 11:25 am |
For all those interested in samples: google “White2tea Club”